Posts Tagged Jerry Falwell
The Not-So-Rational Responses
Posted by clifgriffin in General on May 24th, 2007
My challenge to those who attack Jerry Falwell in his death has been mostly ignored. This is not surprising. It is much easier to spew poison and hate than it is to rationally defend your view. However, some have answered my challenge. I shall post one such exchange now.
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He tried to dictate to others how to live their lives. |
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It all depends on your worldview. If you believe that truth is something relative to the individual and not a matter of eternal consequence, you have no imperative to preserve truth or believe anything other than what is most comfortable.Inherent in the concept of truth is its exclusivity, and this is something that people of a more liberal worldview cannot accept. What replaces truth is tolerance. Tolerance of anyone except the intolerant. (Yeah, it really doesn’t make sense.) Now, I wouldn’t call that worldview and the resulting lethargy and inconsistency virtuous. Jerry believed with all his heart that man was created by God for his glory. That man sinned against God creating a separation between them. He believed that Jesus died in our place. He preached what Jesus preached “”I am THE way, THE truth, and THE life. NO man cometh unto the father but by ME.”" (My emphasis.) This is not popular, but this belief compells us to tell others. So that they may reconcile their sinful condition and accept Jesus’s sacrafice…his gift. He told people what the Bible preaches about how they should live their lives. I do not find that a bad thing. Cordially, |
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You didn’t respond to my original statement. You just gave a pre-programmed diatribe about Falwell’s virtues while making a blanket indictment of all those with a “”liberal”" worldview. I do not dispute that Falwell dedicated his life to spreading his views on God and Jesus. That much is clear. What I said is that he tried to impose this belief system on others. It’s fine to have faith in your religion, even to spread the word as much as you want. But Falwell used the church as a mult-million dollar bankroll to gain political clout and try to make religious ideas into law. This is simply unconstitutional — America is very clear about separation of church and state. There is no room for religion in government. Surely you do not dispute this point. And if you do — well, perhaps that is why you find your beliefs to be so “”unpopular”", as you say. |
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I responded directly to your statement. I identified your claim and I countered it with my own. I attempted to explain away your definition of Jerry Falwell’s behavior with one of my own. That is the only way I could have responded.Ironically enough, it is your statement that lacks any meaningful response to what I stated. Instead, you cleverly side stepped everything I said while accusing me of hashing out a “”pre-programmed diatribe”". There is a term for that. It’s called “”ad hominem”". In other words, attack the person, not the argument. Now, keeping that in mind, I don’t really owe you a response. You completly evaded my argument by denying its existence. However, to show my good faith I will respond to your statement anyway. You claim he wanted to make his own religous ideas law. In order to address this properly we’re going to have to be a little more specific. What “”religous ideas”" did Falwell wish to be protected by law? 1. The sanctity of life. Falwell believed, as most Americans believe, that a fetus is a human life and worthy of protection under the law. He was influential in bringing to light partial birth abortion which was finally banned by the supreme court this past month. These three examples are hardly the dictation of how people should live. Nor do they represent trying to use the law to impose religious beliefs on all Americans. They are important issues to all Americans, religious and non-religous. I’ve given you three examples, I ask you to give me three. A statement is only as good as the evidence that can be offered in its support. |
I’ll let you be the judge. My challenge still stands: If you think you have a reasonable defense for why Jerry Falwell was a terrible man that should be maligned in his life and cursed in his death, email me therationalresponse@gmail.com .
It’s called putting your money where your mouth is…so to speak.
Clifton
While they mock, they are not worthy…
Posted by clifgriffin in Personal on May 15th, 2007
As unwise as it may be, I have been closely following the media coverage of Dr. Falwell’s passing. I’ve been reading forums and comments on said news stories.
And my heart is filled with sorrow/anger at the things some dare say. The way they try to demonize him. The way they call him hateful..him who contended for their salvation for most of his life.
As I’ve been sitting here and thinking, I suddenly realized that what is happening is exactly what is supposed to happen.
Jesus said that we would be hated by all men for His name’s sake. He also said that those the world persecutes, the world is not worthy of.
The world was not worthy of Jerry Falwell.
I don’t know anything else to say.
Clifton
Just try me…
Posted by clifgriffin in Rant on May 15th, 2007
If I read one more article on Jerry Falwell’s passing that says he “”molded the religous right into a political force”" or was “”famous”" for his “”inflamatory”" remarks against gays, blacks, and fishermen I’m going to stab a journalist.
Consider yourself warned.
In all seriousness, I can only say that I’m devestated to hear the news. I’ve never witnessed someone with so much vision, heart, and courage in the face of a world that is incapable and unwilling to understand the truth.
*sigh*
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